begin this year there was a tv program in the netherlands where a guy goes undercover in a sect and show what is going on.
now this government party d66 want to ban sects who do brainwashing.. in our country there is an sect listwhich is 30 years old and outdated.
they start to investigate all the sects in the netherlands.
Hi Dutch-scientist,
Glad to meet you here. I also live in the Netherlands... Although not baptized was pretty heavily involved in this religion... Now looking for a smooth way to leave. Could you please tell me the name of the program that you mensioned? Maybe I can find it somewhere on the internet...
Greetings
John Locke
formerly prominent jw gives his life experience here.. he is mentioned a few times in franz's book & used to be a gilead instructor with ed dunlap , so clearly is aware of apostate issues.
his exceptionally rude letter on page 612 of "in search of christian freedom" to a man whose wife committed suicide betrays a lack of love & understanding for rank & file jws.. .
Also this article is missing in the Simplified English version... WTF...
formerly prominent jw gives his life experience here.. he is mentioned a few times in franz's book & used to be a gilead instructor with ed dunlap , so clearly is aware of apostate issues.
his exceptionally rude letter on page 612 of "in search of christian freedom" to a man whose wife committed suicide betrays a lack of love & understanding for rank & file jws.. .
This is the quote from the page 20 (the same article):
My father... He was sure he was going to
heaven. My hope is that he is in Jehovah’s
memory, and if so, at resurrection time he
will be, not where he thought he would be,
but here on the earth with the hope of living
forever in the restored Paradise.
$hit... this detail about his father is completely unnecessary in this article.... Who are you to decide were your father should go after his death.
it just promotes the WT's idea about two classes of people and preventing people to partake of the emblems at the memorial
watchtower 15th jan 1958 page 62 qfr.. why, after receiving from god the express command to multiply and fill the earth, did adam and eve refrain from carrying out this procreation mandate while they were perfect in the garden of eden?.
asking this question concerning adam and eve is like trying to meddle in the private affairs of a christian married couple today, and asking why they have had no children as yet.
jehovah god set no definite time for adam and eve to begin having perfect children to fill the earth.
The WT also say somewhere this is why they were in the Garden of Eden for less than a month. During this time Eve's natural desires would have taken effect.....
St George of England can you remember where this can be found??? It would be nice to have a proof :)))
That just sound hilerious
i am curious of any of the members comes from the netherlands and wich particular congregation, i myself was in emmen where bethel was.
maybe we know eachother.
bedankt!.
@Band on the Run... I am misterious John Locke from LOST :))))
Guys... we are mulitude here... shall we organize some meetup???
As for the numbers, Lady Viola, recently I had a conversation with an elder... he said that there are around 200 witnesses in out town... and there are also around 500 ex-JW in our town
i am curious of any of the members comes from the netherlands and wich particular congregation, i myself was in emmen where bethel was.
maybe we know eachother.
bedankt!.
Hoi Medina,
Im also from the Netherlands... was in Emmen Bethel a couple of times, know a few folks there.
Are you still Witness?
For 20 bucks I can get dinner for two persons delivered at my house :))) Guess that's it :((
i only recently found out that there was a new songbook 'released' last year.
i came in under the old pink flexi-cover one.
then in 1984 that oversized 225 song brown one came out.
BTW, if anybody wants a pdf copy, let me know I can scan it and give you a link...
i only recently found out that there was a new songbook 'released' last year.
i came in under the old pink flexi-cover one.
then in 1984 that oversized 225 song brown one came out.
Well, the music is not bad... Some of the songs sound really nice, some are a bit difficult to sing as for generally unprepared JW crowd.
But as soon as you learn how to sing them, they sound OK... of course the lyrics sometimes just makes one want to puke... something like "be obedient to the brothers"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fre89067f1g.
this song is how i feel about the organization.. hello everyone!.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7ObFTMXfv4&feature=related
Desparate religion - ATB
You know she's never gonna tell you
If she likes it this way
You know she's never gonna ask you
If you feel the same
A fever, oh an addiction uu.. was it worth it,
Did you give your life away?
A fever, a desperate religion
And all that she can say is
Give me just a little bit ..uh.. Give me just a little bit..
A train that never stops rolling,
It's getting into your blood
A need that never stops growing
She's a poisonous one
A hope for better days but nothing oh.. seems to fix it ..uh..
Now you're wasting away
Indeed a desperate religion
And all that she will say is
Give me just a little bit ..uh..
Give me just a little bit
A desperate addiction
A familiar affliction
Denying won't fix it
This desperate religion
Give me just a little bit ..uh..
Give me just a little bit
